Gamer's Voice

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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by Devvil » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:28 am

YamNivek wrote:I'm afraid its just gamings turn.

In the 50's and 60's it was Rock and Roll turning the kids into devil heathens.

In the 70's and 80's it was Movies poisoning the young minds and provoking them to do terrible things.

In the 90's and 00's it gamings turn. It is coming to a head though as most taboid papers are doing small game reviews (usually in the back sections). I'm in doubt that MW2 is derised in the front pages and then given a 9/10 in the review bit.

Senesationalism sells papers and broadsheets are finding less and less sales (with the advent of the net and instant news) so a massive headline saying VIDEO GAME TRAINING KIDS FOR TERRORISM is exactly the thing that will make people pick the paper up.

It doesnt matter that the level is no doubt showing the depravity and cold heartlessness behind terrorism. Even with the game having an 18 rating, these small details get overlooked as the media will exploit every negative angle to provoke such a response as to make you buy the paper.

The headline GAME SHOWS TERRORISM FOR THE COWARDACE IT REALLY IS & IS FUN TO PLAY FOR OVER 18's ONLY will sell about 3 papers.

If 4chan was to come out in the mainstream papers then the Daily Mail readers will actually die of shock. That place is wrong but yet funny in the context of annonimity!
You couldn´t have put in better words... That´s were I was trying to get.

So if shooting games are teaching kids to be killers does it mean gran turismo is teaching how to drive ? :roll: Or even Sim City are they being trained to be the mayor of a city hall...

Because shock only sells these days....
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by d0n_th3_run_4ss4ss1n » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:01 am

Thx Thanatos - so I´m not forced to let the d0n´s forces roll over this tiny kiddie toy boy who really seems not to be able to get an obvious hint.
Pic says evrything... (Btw when will you ever return to t server or L4D, Thanatos? Come back soon - the Zombeez miss ya :greentoke: )

@Pogue: I know what was meant by callin it a dictatorship. Just kiddin.
But I guess the whole world is "dictated" by censorship already - startin with advertisement bein a censorship to our minds cos they are constructed that well you ain´t got lot of a scope left to make up your own mind bout the utility of the product whether if it´s really worth buyin it.

Actually we ain´t able to answer THE KILLER GAMES QUESTION anymore, at least not for our kids cos (except one here) we can´t really remember what our thoughts were as kids/teens. I can remember that I always told myself when I was bout 12-14 that it´s so unfair to be treated like this or that just becos of age - I know a lot bout the world - so why you treat me like a child - I won´t treat my child/children at all like that as a grown up?! But I learned to see it in a different way. When I went to elementary school I wouldn´t even dare to think about the word "fuck" or "fucker" - sayin it I would have gotten some warm ears by me dad for sure. Now think of the children nowadays sayin it in kindergarten almost, smokin with 11 and gettin pregnant with 13/14. It´s our fuckin weak society that harms children´s way of behavior cos we give a fuck about the old not bein lucrative anymore and have no time for our children not bein lucrative yet (not talkin out of parent´s view but out of the view of concerns and lobbies that alrdy got more influence on our family life than the Bill Cosby Show in the good old days). Is it a wonder those little grown ups get lost? That´s the fuckin ONE reason for them gettin fuckin mental - and it´s not even their fault. Not CSS or a blood splattered airport in MW2... If you can´t differ between reality and virtuality anymore there is no airport needed to crank it up and slaughter anyone. It also may be the color of the cheese of your breakfast sandwich or the smell of their neighbors bubble gum or anything else but the game he´/she´s been playin the evenin before...

One last thing accordin this topic here: did you already look up the word "amok"?
"...the phrase is particularly associated with a specific sociopathic culture-bound syndrome in Malaysian culture. In a typical case of running amok, a male who has shown no previous sign of anger or any inclination to violence will acquire a weapon and, in a sudden frenzy, will attempt to kill or seriously injure anyone he encounters..."
and as well these lines:
"...Early travellers in Asia sometimes describe a kind of military amok, in which soldiers facing apparently inevitable defeat suddenly burst into a frenzy of violence which so startles their enemies that it either delivers victory or at least ensures what the soldier in that culture considers an honourable death..."

So is there any parallel to computer games?! No. But definitely a sign of suppressure and a cry for help like an animal being tossed into a corner. Actually just "human"...

Sorry for possibly lettin me go a bit here and btw contradictin myself by sayin this wasn´t meant to discuss - i dunno :lol: ... :spanking:
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by YamNivek » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:05 am

Damn Sim City.

Theres an army of people who can plan and deliver water distribution throughout a city with their talents going to waste!
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by LazyEagle » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:13 am

forget Sim City man, do you know how many people play those Farmville and Farmtown games on Facebook?

Future food crises be damned, we have an army of potential farmers being trained how to grow us far more than we can ever eat!
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by Thanatosgratus » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:17 am

LazyEagle wrote:forget Sim City man, do you know how many people play those Farmville and Farmtown games on Facebook?

Future food crises be damned, we have an army of potential farmers being trained how to grow us far more than we can ever eat!
They're only playing till they get the subsidies.

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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by YamNivek » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:18 am

Whoops hit quote not edit!!


Also, ona more serious note, the ability to differ between realtiy and the virtual world is one the people complaining about dont understand.

Looking in from the outside, with no prior knowledge of games, to look at a screen with people exploding and terrorists openly shooting in a room full of innocent bystanders, with the person playing in some control of the action. It will look horryfying.

The reason this is misunderstood is the non-gamer person deosnt see or feel the disconnection with the control interface. The gamer isnt shooting people, hes controlling a character shooting people, whereas the uninformed onlooker sees the gamer performing these actions.

Until we have full virtual reality with full tactile feedback, then gaming will alwasy be a suspension of belief. If it does get to the point where we can play VR red dwarf style then count me out! Put me in front of a computer and in the middle of a war and I'll shoot the shit out of everyone. Put me in a fully life-like VR environment where i can feel, sense, touch, smell and taste eveythijng then I will be hiding in the nearest cupboard!
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by LazyEagle » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:11 pm

Love that you metion the VR in Red Dwarf.

Actually, back to one of my long standing gripes about the computer industry, wher ethe fuck is my home VR unit????

We had VR in the early 90s, and Sega even demoed a pair of VR glasses back in the day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_VR" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; , but where the fuck did it go?

With the cost of LCD screens these days, surely someone could resurrect this tech!
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by Johnimus Prime » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:15 pm

LazyEagle wrote:Love that you metion the VR in Red Dwarf.

Actually, back to one of my long standing gripes about the computer industry, wher ethe fuck is my home VR unit????

We had VR in the early 90s, and Sega even demoed a pair of VR glasses back in the day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_VR" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; , but where the fuck did it go?

With the cost of LCD screens these days, surely someone could resurrect this tech!
What was that game show presented by Craig Charles where players walked round in a VR world?
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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by Knails » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:18 pm

I cannot find any reference to it anywhere but its title on IMDB,
but was it cyberspace john?

also lazy the VR things went the way of AR (augmented reality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9KPJlA5yds" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Gamer's Voice

Post by Thanatosgratus » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:59 pm

Johnimus Prime wrote: What was that game show presented by Craig Charles where players walked round in a VR world?
Cyberzone

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